the thread of emptiness

variations on a passage of conversation

between Joan Retallack & John Cage

the thread of emptiness that runs through it all

yes, yes

it’s very interesting to me –

yes

– that the thread of emptiness runs

– runs through everything

– through everything

the thread of everything that empties through it all

yes

it’s run through everything –

yes, yes

– everything that empties me

– empties through my very interest

– my very interest

the runs thread everything through me

yes, yes

that empties it’s interest –

yes

– empty as the running

– the running through every interest

– through every interest

that very emptiness interests me through it all

yes

it’s run through –

yes, yes

– the emptiness interests me

– threaded through that

– through that

the interestedness of it all is through 

yes, yes

that thread it’s empty –

yes

– the interest of everything running

– every empty thread

– empty thread